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3/26/08 HIGHBROW MOUW TALKS ABOUT GOING TO KOREA: “We are getting ready to leave for Korea and Japan tomorrow. My main assignment on this trip is to deliver the first Underwood Lectures. This lectureship has been established by the oldest Protes
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To: vanderkok@gmail.com [does rich mouw care , truly care, about anybody else?] 3/26/08 HIGHBROW MOUW TALKS ABOUT GOING TO KOREA: "We are getting ready to leave for Korea and Japan tomorrow. My main assignment on this trip is to deliver the first Underwood Lectures. This lectureship has been established by the oldest Protestant congregration in Korea, the Saemoonan Presbyterian Church, in cooperation with New Brunswick Theological Seminary. Horace Underwood, a graduate of New Brunswick, arrived in Korea in 1885, as the first official Protestant missionary sent to that country. In 1886 he established an orphanage school, which eventually became Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church, now a very large church. Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church now a very large church. One thing I did in preparation for these …"
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Subject: 3/26/08 HIGHBROW MOUW TALKS ABOUT GOING TO KOREA: "We are getting ready to leave for Korea and Japan tomorrow. My main assignment on this trip is to deliver the first Underwood Lectures. This lectureship has been established by the oldest Protestant congregration in Korea, the Saemoonan Presbyterian Church, in cooperation with New Brunswick Theological Seminary. Horace Underwood, a graduate of New Brunswick, arrived in Korea in 1885, as the first official Protestant missionary sent to that country. In 1886 he established an orphanage school, which eventually became Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church, now a very large church. Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church now a very large church. One thing I did in prep
To: vanderkok@gmail.com [does rich mouw care , truly care, about anybody else?] 3/26/08 HIGHBROW MOUW TALKS ABOUT GOING TO KOREA: "We are getting ready to leave for Korea and Japan tomorrow. My main assignment on this trip is to deliver the first Underwood Lectures. This lectureship has been established by the oldest Protestant congregration in Korea, the Saemoonan Presbyterian Church, in cooperation with New Brunswick Theological Seminary. Horace Underwood, a graduate of New Brunswick, arrived in Korea in 1885, as the first official Protestant missionary sent to that country. In 1886 he established an orphanage school, which eventually became Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church, now a very large church. Yonsei University, a major institution of higher education in Korea. In 1887 he established a small congregation of 14 believers, which continues today as the Saemoonan Church now a very large church. One thing I did in preparation for these …"
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3/18/08 HIGHBROW MOUW MENTIONS BARTH & SERMON PREPARATION: “…And indeed Barth pulled no punches on the subject. Framing a sermon with an introduction and a conclusion is motivated, he argued, by a desire to establish a “point of contact,” a “c
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Subject: 3/18/08 HIGHBROW MOUW MENTIONS BARTH & SERMON PREPARATION: "…And indeed Barth pulled no punches on the subject. Framing a sermon with an introduction and a conclusion is motivated, he argued, by a desire to establish a “point of contact,” a “common ground,” with those to whom the sermon is addressed. And this motive is theologically misguided. We must simply proclaim the text. The Word of God will make its own connection to the hearts of the hearers. The Holy Spirit does not need our help in making the message of God’s Word “relevant” to the innermost regions of the human spirit. Barth goes so far as to label as “heresy” any effort on the part of a preacher to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text. to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text But I was glad to see that there was more. In preparing our sermons, Barth says, we do need to consider “the situation in which the congregation is placed.” We m
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 3/18/08 HIGHBROW MOUW MENTIONS BARTH & SERMON PREPARATION: "…And indeed Barth pulled no punches on the subject. Framing a sermon with an introduction and a conclusion is motivated, he argued, by a desire to establish a “point of contact,” a “common ground,” with those to whom the sermon is addressed. And this motive is theologically misguided. We must simply proclaim the text. The Word of God will make its own connection to the hearts of the hearers. The Holy Spirit does not need our help in making the message of God’s Word “relevant” to the innermost regions of the human spirit. Barth goes so far as to label as “heresy” any effort on the part of a preacher to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text. to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text But I was glad to see that there was more. In preparing our sermons, Barth says, we do need to consider “the situation in which the congregation is placed.” We must preach to them “in a way that they will understand.” The preacher “must know them as individuals he must be acquainted with the conditions which shape their lives, with their capacities and their potentialities for good and evil. Only so will he find the means to touch their hearts so that the Word may have significance for them.” A preacher must be careful not to deliver a sermon that is “simply a monologue, magnificent …'"
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Subject: 3/18/08 HIGHBROW MOUW MENTIONS BARTH & SERMON PREPARATION: "…And indeed Barth pulled no punches on the subject. Framing a sermon with an introduction and a conclusion is motivated, he argued, by a desire to establish a “point of contact,” a “common ground,” with those to whom the sermon is addressed. And this motive is theologically misguided. We must simply proclaim the text. The Word of God will make its own connection to the hearts of the hearers. The Holy Spirit does not need our help in making the message of God’s Word “relevant” to the innermost regions of the human spirit. Barth goes so far as to label as “heresy” any effort on the part of a preacher to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text. to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text But I was glad to see that there was more. In preparing our sermons, Barth says, we do need to consider “the situation in which the congregation is placed.” We m
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 3/18/08 HIGHBROW MOUW MENTIONS BARTH & SERMON PREPARATION: "…And indeed Barth pulled no punches on the subject. Framing a sermon with an introduction and a conclusion is motivated, he argued, by a desire to establish a “point of contact,” a “common ground,” with those to whom the sermon is addressed. And this motive is theologically misguided. We must simply proclaim the text. The Word of God will make its own connection to the hearts of the hearers. The Holy Spirit does not need our help in making the message of God’s Word “relevant” to the innermost regions of the human spirit. Barth goes so far as to label as “heresy” any effort on the part of a preacher to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text. to provide introductions and conclusions to the proclamation of the text But I was glad to see that there was more. In preparing our sermons, Barth says, we do need to consider “the situation in which the congregation is placed.” We must preach to them “in a way that they will understand.” The preacher “must know them as individuals he must be acquainted with the conditions which shape their lives, with their capacities and their potentialities for good and evil. Only so will he find the means to touch their hearts so that the Word may have significance for them.” A preacher must be careful not to deliver a sermon that is “simply a monologue, magnificent …'"
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6/16/08 MOUW’s CHILDHOOD REBELLION STORY “….a small garden plot in that yard, and one day she worked with me to plant some seeds. She showed me how to dig holes and do the planting, and she instructed me about regularly watering the ground. Sh
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Subject: 6/16/08 MOUW's CHILDHOOD REBELLION STORY "….a small garden plot in that yard, and one day she worked with me to plant some seeds. She showed me how to dig holes and do the planting, and she instructed me about regularly watering the ground. She also helped me to block off that area with sticks and string, so that no one would walk on the planted area. And she warned me: “Do not ever step on this ground where you have planted the seeds, or the plants will not grow!” One day when I was playing in that yard, I looked to make sure my parents were not watching, and then I stepped over the stretched string, and I deliberately stomped on the ground where I had planted the seeds. I can still remember the spirit of rebellion that motivated me. I was stomping on the ground precisely because I knew it was an act of disobedience. I also remember often lying awake in my bed in the weeks after I did that, fearful that the plants would not grow and worried that my rebellion would be revealed
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 6/16/08 MOUW's CHILDHOOD REBELLION STORY
"….a small garden plot in that yard, and one day she worked with me to plant some seeds. She showed me how to dig holes and do the planting, and she instructed me about regularly watering the ground. She also helped me to block off that area with sticks and string, so that no one would walk on the planted area. And she warned me: “Do not ever step on this ground where you have planted the seeds, or the plants will not grow!” One day when I was playing in that yard, I looked to make sure my parents were not watching, and then I stepped over the stretched string, and I deliberately stomped on the ground where I had planted the seeds. I can still remember the spirit of rebellion that motivated me. I was stomping on the ground precisely because I knew it was an act of disobedience. I also remember often lying awake in my bed in the weeks after I did that, fearful that the plants would not grow and worried that my rebellion would be revealed. I even prayed some childish prayers for deliverance, although I do not think they included any elements of confession and repentance—just something like, “God please, please, make those plants grow!” I was greatly relieved when one day the green shoots suddenly appeared in the place where I had stomped my feet …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200806
From: vanderkok [via Pixelpipe] <postmaster-noreply@pixelpipe.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Subject: 6/16/08 MOUW's CHILDHOOD REBELLION STORY "….a small garden plot in that yard, and one day she worked with me to plant some seeds. She showed me how to dig holes and do the planting, and she instructed me about regularly watering the ground. She also helped me to block off that area with sticks and string, so that no one would walk on the planted area. And she warned me: “Do not ever step on this ground where you have planted the seeds, or the plants will not grow!” One day when I was playing in that yard, I looked to make sure my parents were not watching, and then I stepped over the stretched string, and I deliberately stomped on the ground where I had planted the seeds. I can still remember the spirit of rebellion that motivated me. I was stomping on the ground precisely because I knew it was an act of disobedience. I also remember often lying awake in my bed in the weeks after I did that, fearful that the plants would not grow and worried that my rebellion would be revealed
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 6/16/08 MOUW's CHILDHOOD REBELLION STORY
"….a small garden plot in that yard, and one day she worked with me to plant some seeds. She showed me how to dig holes and do the planting, and she instructed me about regularly watering the ground. She also helped me to block off that area with sticks and string, so that no one would walk on the planted area. And she warned me: “Do not ever step on this ground where you have planted the seeds, or the plants will not grow!” One day when I was playing in that yard, I looked to make sure my parents were not watching, and then I stepped over the stretched string, and I deliberately stomped on the ground where I had planted the seeds. I can still remember the spirit of rebellion that motivated me. I was stomping on the ground precisely because I knew it was an act of disobedience. I also remember often lying awake in my bed in the weeks after I did that, fearful that the plants would not grow and worried that my rebellion would be revealed. I even prayed some childish prayers for deliverance, although I do not think they included any elements of confession and repentance—just something like, “God please, please, make those plants grow!” I was greatly relieved when one day the green shoots suddenly appeared in the place where I had stomped my feet …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200806
4/28/08 DOES RICH MOUW USE “POETIC LICENSE” TO MAKE HIS POINT RE DIVORCE? “When someone comes to talk to me about the personal pain of divorce, one that has happened or one that will soon happen, I typically tell them about the experience of a f
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Subject: 4/28/08 DOES RICH MOUW USE "POETIC LICENSE" TO MAKE HIS POINT RE DIVORCE? "When someone comes to talk to me about the personal pain of divorce, one that has happened or one that will soon happen, I typically tell them about the experience of a friend who went through two divorces. The first one happened when he was a member of a very conservative church. When his wife told him she was leaving him, he went to his pastor, who responded harshly by telling him that he wanted my friend—a lay leader in the congregation—either to resign his membership voluntarily or to face formal excommunication proceedings. My friend resigned and moved on to a congregation that belonged to a more mainstream denomination. Soon he remarried, but a few years later his second wife also filed for divorce. Again he informed his pastor, but this time the pastor seemed surprised that he would even bother to make an issue of it Basically my friend was told, “No big deal.” Soon after, he came to me to talk
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 4/28/08 DOES RICH MOUW USE "POETIC LICENSE" TO MAKE HIS POINT RE DIVORCE? "When someone comes to talk to me about the personal pain of divorce, one that has happened or one that will soon happen, I typically tell them about the experience of a friend who went through two divorces. The first one happened when he was a member of a very conservative church. When his wife told him she was leaving him, he went to his pastor, who responded harshly by telling him that he wanted my friend—a lay leader in the congregation—either to resign his membership voluntarily or to face formal excommunication proceedings. My friend resigned and moved on to a congregation that belonged to a more mainstream denomination. Soon he remarried, but a few years later his second wife also filed for divorce. Again he informed his pastor, but this time the pastor seemed surprised that he would even bother to make an issue of it Basically my friend was told, “No big deal.” Soon after, he came to me to talk about his experiences. “You know what I want?” he asked, with tears streaming down his cheeks. “I want to hear two things from the church. One is that divorce is a horrible thing, that it is one of the biggest failures a human being can experience. The other is that this is not the end of my life…"
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From: vanderkok [via Pixelpipe] <postmaster-noreply@pixelpipe.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:54 AM
Subject: 4/28/08 DOES RICH MOUW USE "POETIC LICENSE" TO MAKE HIS POINT RE DIVORCE? "When someone comes to talk to me about the personal pain of divorce, one that has happened or one that will soon happen, I typically tell them about the experience of a friend who went through two divorces. The first one happened when he was a member of a very conservative church. When his wife told him she was leaving him, he went to his pastor, who responded harshly by telling him that he wanted my friend—a lay leader in the congregation—either to resign his membership voluntarily or to face formal excommunication proceedings. My friend resigned and moved on to a congregation that belonged to a more mainstream denomination. Soon he remarried, but a few years later his second wife also filed for divorce. Again he informed his pastor, but this time the pastor seemed surprised that he would even bother to make an issue of it Basically my friend was told, “No big deal.” Soon after, he came to me to talk
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 4/28/08 DOES RICH MOUW USE "POETIC LICENSE" TO MAKE HIS POINT RE DIVORCE? "When someone comes to talk to me about the personal pain of divorce, one that has happened or one that will soon happen, I typically tell them about the experience of a friend who went through two divorces. The first one happened when he was a member of a very conservative church. When his wife told him she was leaving him, he went to his pastor, who responded harshly by telling him that he wanted my friend—a lay leader in the congregation—either to resign his membership voluntarily or to face formal excommunication proceedings. My friend resigned and moved on to a congregation that belonged to a more mainstream denomination. Soon he remarried, but a few years later his second wife also filed for divorce. Again he informed his pastor, but this time the pastor seemed surprised that he would even bother to make an issue of it Basically my friend was told, “No big deal.” Soon after, he came to me to talk about his experiences. “You know what I want?” he asked, with tears streaming down his cheeks. “I want to hear two things from the church. One is that divorce is a horrible thing, that it is one of the biggest failures a human being can experience. The other is that this is not the end of my life…"
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8/14/08 MOUW PATERNALISTIC RE BILL BRIGHT “…I wish I had asked him to expand upon. “If I had to do it all over again,” he said, “I would downplay the Four Spiritual Laws and place a strong emphasis on the attributes of God.” That remark signal
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Subject: 8/14/08 MOUW PATERNALISTIC RE BILL BRIGHT "…I wish I had asked him to expand upon. “If I had to do it all over again,” he said, “I would downplay the Four Spiritual Laws and place a strong emphasis on the attributes of God.” That remark signaled a growing awareness on his part of the need for theological depth. And his specific example of the importance of good theology rings especially true for me. Several years ago I had a conversation with a pastor who had become somewhat sceptical of the relevance of seminary …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/14/08 MOUW PATERNALISTIC RE BILL BRIGHT "…I wish I had asked him to expand upon. “If I had to do it all over again,” he said, “I would downplay the Four Spiritual Laws and place a strong emphasis on the attributes of God.” That remark signaled a growing awareness on his part of the need for theological depth. And his specific example of the importance of good theology rings especially true for me. Several years ago I had a conversation with a pastor who had become somewhat sceptical of the relevance of seminary …"
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From: vanderkok [via Pixelpipe] <postmaster-noreply@pixelpipe.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Subject: 8/14/08 MOUW PATERNALISTIC RE BILL BRIGHT "…I wish I had asked him to expand upon. “If I had to do it all over again,” he said, “I would downplay the Four Spiritual Laws and place a strong emphasis on the attributes of God.” That remark signaled a growing awareness on his part of the need for theological depth. And his specific example of the importance of good theology rings especially true for me. Several years ago I had a conversation with a pastor who had become somewhat sceptical of the relevance of seminary …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/14/08 MOUW PATERNALISTIC RE BILL BRIGHT "…I wish I had asked him to expand upon. “If I had to do it all over again,” he said, “I would downplay the Four Spiritual Laws and place a strong emphasis on the attributes of God.” That remark signaled a growing awareness on his part of the need for theological depth. And his specific example of the importance of good theology rings especially true for me. Several years ago I had a conversation with a pastor who had become somewhat sceptical of the relevance of seminary …"
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8/19/08 MOUW “TRAVEL-DROPPING” ‘WHEN I WAS IN THE UK”, HIS SELF-Indulgent, LUXURIOUS CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A “… I read about Lorna Byrne’s book while in the UK recently. Because I recently had also read Susan Garrett’s study, I was not as dismissi
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Subject: 8/19/08 MOUW "TRAVEL-DROPPING" 'WHEN I WAS IN THE UK", HIS SELF-Indulgent, LUXURIOUS CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A "… I read about Lorna Byrne’s book while in the UK recently. Because I recently had also read Susan Garrett’s study, I was not as dismissive of Ms. Byrne as I might otherwise have been. Indeed, it might be good for pastors and theology professors to read both books together. That might even be a good exercise for church study groups and seminary theology classes. Susan Garrett can help us better understand and speak to the folks who will eagerly read …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/19/08 MOUW "TRAVEL-DROPPING" 'WHEN I WAS IN THE UK", HIS SELF-Indulgent, LUXURIOUS CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A "… I read about Lorna Byrne’s book while in the UK recently. Because I recently had also read Susan Garrett’s study, I was not as dismissive of Ms. Byrne as I might otherwise have been. Indeed, it might be good for pastors and theology professors to read both books together. That might even be a good exercise for church study groups and seminary theology classes. Susan Garrett can help us better understand and speak to the folks who will eagerly read …"
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From: vanderkok [via Pixelpipe] <postmaster-noreply@pixelpipe.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Subject: 8/19/08 MOUW "TRAVEL-DROPPING" 'WHEN I WAS IN THE UK", HIS SELF-Indulgent, LUXURIOUS CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A "… I read about Lorna Byrne’s book while in the UK recently. Because I recently had also read Susan Garrett’s study, I was not as dismissive of Ms. Byrne as I might otherwise have been. Indeed, it might be good for pastors and theology professors to read both books together. That might even be a good exercise for church study groups and seminary theology classes. Susan Garrett can help us better understand and speak to the folks who will eagerly read …" http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/19/08 MOUW "TRAVEL-DROPPING" 'WHEN I WAS IN THE UK", HIS SELF-Indulgent, LUXURIOUS CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A "… I read about Lorna Byrne’s book while in the UK recently. Because I recently had also read Susan Garrett’s study, I was not as dismissive of Ms. Byrne as I might otherwise have been. Indeed, it might be good for pastors and theology professors to read both books together. That might even be a good exercise for church study groups and seminary theology classes. Susan Garrett can help us better understand and speak to the folks who will eagerly read …"
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8/14/08 MOUW: “BILL BRIGHT PROUD HE DROPPED OUT OF FULLER” “…plan to read the biography. In my younger days I was somewhat critical of Bill Bright’s views on various subjects, but in his last years we got to know each other and formed a friend
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Subject: 8/14/08 MOUW: "BILL BRIGHT PROUD HE DROPPED OUT OF FULLER" "…plan to read the biography. In my younger days I was somewhat critical of Bill Bright’s views on various subjects, but in his last years we got to know each other and formed a friendship. There was a time when Bill seemed to pride himself on having dropped out of Fuller Seminary, but in our conversations he expressed much admiration for Fuller, and for the cause of theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student Peace and Justice Committee. theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student P http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/14/08 MOUW: "BILL BRIGHT PROUD HE DROPPED OUT OF FULLER" "…plan to read the biography. In my younger days I was somewhat critical of Bill Bright’s views on various subjects, but in his last years we got to know each other and formed a friendship. There was a time when Bill seemed to pride himself on having dropped out of Fuller Seminary, but in our conversations he expressed much admiration for Fuller, and for the cause of theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student Peace and Justice Committee. theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student P
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Subject: 8/14/08 MOUW: "BILL BRIGHT PROUD HE DROPPED OUT OF FULLER" "…plan to read the biography. In my younger days I was somewhat critical of Bill Bright’s views on various subjects, but in his last years we got to know each other and formed a friendship. There was a time when Bill seemed to pride himself on having dropped out of Fuller Seminary, but in our conversations he expressed much admiration for Fuller, and for the cause of theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student Peace and Justice Committee. theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student P http://www.netbloghost.com/mouw/?m=200808
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/14/08 MOUW: "BILL BRIGHT PROUD HE DROPPED OUT OF FULLER" "…plan to read the biography. In my younger days I was somewhat critical of Bill Bright’s views on various subjects, but in his last years we got to know each other and formed a friendship. There was a time when Bill seemed to pride himself on having dropped out of Fuller Seminary, but in our conversations he expressed much admiration for Fuller, and for the cause of theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student Peace and Justice Committee. theological education as such. He was proud of his son Zach, now a PCUSA minister, who during his days as a Fuller student had been a leader of the student P
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8/25/08 TOO MUCH INFORMATION? MOUW SAYS HE SINGS IN THE SHOWER “…often I sing in the shower. And I frequently surprise myself at what Ising, and I try to figure out where the song came from in my psyche Recentlyit was a song that went like
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Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Subject: 8/25/08 TOO MUCH INFORMATION? MOUW SAYS HE SINGS IN THE SHOWER " …often I sing in the shower. And I frequently surprise myself at what I sing, and I try to figure out where the song came from in my psyche Recently it was a song that went like this: “Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home/ Hallelujah, Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home.” That one came from an event that I had long forgotten. I was barely a teenager when I sang those words as a member of a large choir that sang during a multi-night evangelistic crusade in Albany, New York, in the early 1950s. The evangelist was Hyman Appleman, a Messianic Jew whom I remember to be a fiery preacher After my shower I googled Appleman and found out quite a bit about his life… … peace and justice. Maybe we can use some of that eschatological motivation in the early years of this century. It could be that Jesus is coming soon. Or it could be that he will delay his coming, and we
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/25/08 TOO MUCH INFORMATION? MOUW SAYS HE SINGS IN THE SHOWER " …often I sing in the shower. And I frequently surprise myself at what I sing, and I try to figure out where the song came from in my psyche Recently it was a song that went like this: “Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home/ Hallelujah, Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home.” That one came from an event that I had long forgotten. I was barely a teenager when I sang those words as a member of a large choir that sang during a multi-night evangelistic crusade in Albany, New York, in the early 1950s. The evangelist was Hyman Appleman, a Messianic Jew whom I remember to be a fiery preacher After my shower I googled Appleman and found out quite a bit about his life… … peace and justice. Maybe we can use some of that eschatological motivation in the early years of this century. It could be that Jesus is coming soon. Or it could be that he will delay his coming, and we will instead see an increase of peace and justice in the coming decades. Or maybe not, on both counts. But it would not hurt us to hold out for the truth of either one of those prophecies, and then get on with the work that they mandate! on both counts. But it would not hurt us to hold out for the truth of either one of those prophecies, and then get on with the work that they mandate…" "Pretty sure, pretty strong, pretty much,"
"Mixed feelings,"
"Or maybe not"
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Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Subject: 8/25/08 TOO MUCH INFORMATION? MOUW SAYS HE SINGS IN THE SHOWER " …often I sing in the shower. And I frequently surprise myself at what I sing, and I try to figure out where the song came from in my psyche Recently it was a song that went like this: “Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home/ Hallelujah, Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home.” That one came from an event that I had long forgotten. I was barely a teenager when I sang those words as a member of a large choir that sang during a multi-night evangelistic crusade in Albany, New York, in the early 1950s. The evangelist was Hyman Appleman, a Messianic Jew whom I remember to be a fiery preacher After my shower I googled Appleman and found out quite a bit about his life… … peace and justice. Maybe we can use some of that eschatological motivation in the early years of this century. It could be that Jesus is coming soon. Or it could be that he will delay his coming, and we
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 8/25/08 TOO MUCH INFORMATION? MOUW SAYS HE SINGS IN THE SHOWER " …often I sing in the shower. And I frequently surprise myself at what I sing, and I try to figure out where the song came from in my psyche Recently it was a song that went like this: “Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home/ Hallelujah, Lord, I’m trampin’, trampin’/ wanna make heaven my home.” That one came from an event that I had long forgotten. I was barely a teenager when I sang those words as a member of a large choir that sang during a multi-night evangelistic crusade in Albany, New York, in the early 1950s. The evangelist was Hyman Appleman, a Messianic Jew whom I remember to be a fiery preacher After my shower I googled Appleman and found out quite a bit about his life… … peace and justice. Maybe we can use some of that eschatological motivation in the early years of this century. It could be that Jesus is coming soon. Or it could be that he will delay his coming, and we will instead see an increase of peace and justice in the coming decades. Or maybe not, on both counts. But it would not hurt us to hold out for the truth of either one of those prophecies, and then get on with the work that they mandate! on both counts. But it would not hurt us to hold out for the truth of either one of those prophecies, and then get on with the work that they mandate…" "Pretty sure, pretty strong, pretty much,"
"Mixed feelings,"
"Or maybe not"
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6/1/08 MOUW SAYS HE COULD HAVE VOTED 4 OBAMA OR McCAIN DEPENDING… “… ago, as a previous national election year approached, a magazine asked several of us to describe the kind of person who should be elected as president of the United States.
January 16, 2012
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Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Subject: 6/1/08 MOUW SAYS HE COULD HAVE VOTED 4 OBAMA OR McCAIN DEPENDING… "… ago, as a previous national election year approached, a magazine asked several of us to describe the kind of person who should be elected as president of the United States. We were forbidden to use any names, or to say anything that would point to one of the people who would likely be running. Just give us the general characteristics, the desire skills and virtues, we were told. When my long-ish paragraph appeared in print, someone wrote to tell me that he and a group of his friends had discussed what I had written, and they wanted to congratulate me for endorsing Abraham Lincoln’s candidacy! They were obviously meaning to tease me a bit, but actually they were not far off the mark. I would certainly vote for Lincoln if he were running this time around. He embodied what I think of as some of the noblest characteristics of a presidential leader— not the least being a willingness to speak pastorally to the nat
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 6/1/08 MOUW SAYS HE COULD HAVE VOTED 4 OBAMA OR McCAIN DEPENDING… "… ago, as a previous national election year approached, a magazine asked several of us to describe the kind of person who should be elected as president of the United States. We were forbidden to use any names, or to say anything that would point to one of the people who would likely be running. Just give us the general characteristics, the desire skills and virtues, we were told. When my long-ish paragraph appeared in print, someone wrote to tell me that he and a group of his friends had discussed what I had written, and they wanted to congratulate me for endorsing Abraham Lincoln’s candidacy! They were obviously meaning to tease me a bit, but actually they were not far off the mark. I would certainly vote for Lincoln if he were running this time around. He embodied what I think of as some of the noblest characteristics of a presidential leader— not the least being a willingness to speak pastorally to the nation. Lincoln spoke movingly about the need for a national healing that could only come if citizens were willing to acknowledge their need for individual and collective forgiveness I got to thinking about all of this the other day, when I happened to … "…Image of the national leader as “a nursing father” (see Isaiah 49:23) These days we are increasingly being given choices between fathers and mothers in political leadership. That’s a good thing. Either way, though, we need a lot of nurturing in the public arena. We need to be encouraged to grow as citizens and to flourish as a people who are committed to justice and righteousness. In hoping for that, I am not entertaining any fantasies about the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. But until the real Second Coming occurs, I do pray for a season when national leadership will "fall like rain on the newly mown grass" …. both Republicans and Democrats, often splitting my ticket I do have to say, though, that this present campaign is one of the better ones for someone like me. There is much that I admire in both candidates. I think I know which one I will vote for, but things could happen that could push me the other way The fact is, though, that I do not get my hopes up when I vote, even when I am …"
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From: vanderkok [via Pixelpipe] <postmaster-noreply@pixelpipe.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Subject: 6/1/08 MOUW SAYS HE COULD HAVE VOTED 4 OBAMA OR McCAIN DEPENDING… "… ago, as a previous national election year approached, a magazine asked several of us to describe the kind of person who should be elected as president of the United States. We were forbidden to use any names, or to say anything that would point to one of the people who would likely be running. Just give us the general characteristics, the desire skills and virtues, we were told. When my long-ish paragraph appeared in print, someone wrote to tell me that he and a group of his friends had discussed what I had written, and they wanted to congratulate me for endorsing Abraham Lincoln’s candidacy! They were obviously meaning to tease me a bit, but actually they were not far off the mark. I would certainly vote for Lincoln if he were running this time around. He embodied what I think of as some of the noblest characteristics of a presidential leader— not the least being a willingness to speak pastorally to the nat
To: vanderkok@gmail.com 6/1/08 MOUW SAYS HE COULD HAVE VOTED 4 OBAMA OR McCAIN DEPENDING… "… ago, as a previous national election year approached, a magazine asked several of us to describe the kind of person who should be elected as president of the United States. We were forbidden to use any names, or to say anything that would point to one of the people who would likely be running. Just give us the general characteristics, the desire skills and virtues, we were told. When my long-ish paragraph appeared in print, someone wrote to tell me that he and a group of his friends had discussed what I had written, and they wanted to congratulate me for endorsing Abraham Lincoln’s candidacy! They were obviously meaning to tease me a bit, but actually they were not far off the mark. I would certainly vote for Lincoln if he were running this time around. He embodied what I think of as some of the noblest characteristics of a presidential leader— not the least being a willingness to speak pastorally to the nation. Lincoln spoke movingly about the need for a national healing that could only come if citizens were willing to acknowledge their need for individual and collective forgiveness I got to thinking about all of this the other day, when I happened to … "…Image of the national leader as “a nursing father” (see Isaiah 49:23) These days we are increasingly being given choices between fathers and mothers in political leadership. That’s a good thing. Either way, though, we need a lot of nurturing in the public arena. We need to be encouraged to grow as citizens and to flourish as a people who are committed to justice and righteousness. In hoping for that, I am not entertaining any fantasies about the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. But until the real Second Coming occurs, I do pray for a season when national leadership will "fall like rain on the newly mown grass" …. both Republicans and Democrats, often splitting my ticket I do have to say, though, that this present campaign is one of the better ones for someone like me. There is much that I admire in both candidates. I think I know which one I will vote for, but things could happen that could push me the other way The fact is, though, that I do not get my hopes up when I vote, even when I am …"
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